Question:
Real fur cool or cruel?
?
2010-01-01 15:03:44 UTC
What do u think of real fur?

Chic?

Cruel?

Commentd
34 answers:
2010-01-02 07:16:05 UTC
Cruel.



The fur industry's animal welfare record is woeful.



ETA: NightF:



I have absolutely no time whatsoever for PeTA. They're a repellent organisation that do more harm than good to the animals they profess to care about.



You said, " I wish people would wear coyote fur instead of buying fur from fur farms. Coyotes are pests and it's way better to be frolicking along in the sunshine then BAM suddenly you're dead than to be raised to be killed."



and



"As a last note, I'd like to again point to coyotes- they are invasive pests over much of North America, and hunters are paid bounties to shoot them /and they are left to rot/. Wouldn't it be far better to use the fur from coyotes that would be killed anyway to make coats instead of having new ones made from fake, non-biodegradable materials?"



I'd go along with that. In fact - if the fur industry actually sorted themselves out and could assure me of the conditions that the fur was acquired - then coyote fur would be more than acceptable. I'd promote it myself.



However, the best I'm aware of that the fur industry has come up with is the "origin assured" label.



http://www.originassured.com/index.php/site_wide/



Woefully inadequate. It seems that the only "assurance" about the furs' origin is that it has come from a country where they have some animal welfare laws. The fur MIGHT have been produced in a manner that is marginally less cruel than in the PeTA videos. So what?



" American fur farms actually are very humane."



Really? How humane is "very"? I've seen footage of some European fur farms and it's fair to say that some of them are definitely not as barbaric as some of the factory farms that produce meat. "Less barbaric" is not the same as "humane".



You said,

"Also, to everyone saying "no way should fur be used ever", what about byproduct fur? Do you know all the useful things that come from mink fur farms? Plant food, dog food, bonemeal for agriculture...fur is a small part of the big picture."



I'm not saying that "no way should fur be used ever". If the fur industry could sort itself out and give GENUINE assurances about the welfare of the animals used, I'd have no problem with it.



As for the byproducts of the fur industry - they are available from other sources. You don't need to support a cruel industry to get them.



"And what about vintage furs? Are you going to hate me because I use clothes from before your grandma was born?"



I don't hate you, but I'd prefer even vintage fur was given away. Simply because of a tendency for people to follow the crowd. People might see somebody wearing vintage furs and be inspired to buy new fur.



As I said - if the fur industry sorted itself out so that it was genuinely possible to buy ethically produced fur, I'd have no issue with vintage fur being worn.



As things stand though, the fur industry is so far away from having any credible claims that fur production isn't cruel, that revulsion at fur is the most appropriate response.



I stand by my original position. It's cruel.
?
2010-01-02 19:44:21 UTC
Vintage fur = COOL, new fur = cruel.





Actually, scratch that- I wish people would wear coyote fur instead of buying fur from fur farms. Coyotes are pests and it's way better to be frolicking along in the sunshine then BAM suddenly you're dead than to be raised to be killed.





Edit: WOW some people jump to conclusions. Not all fur is good, but not all fur is bad. There is no black and white answer on this.



The horror stories that PETA loves to point to are products of China, where animal welfare laws are terribly lax. American fur farms actually are very humane.



Also, to everyone saying "no way should fur be used ever", what about byproduct fur? Do you know all the useful things that come from mink fur farms? Plant food, dog food, bonemeal for agriculture...fur is a small part of the big picture.



And what about vintage furs? Are you going to hate me because I use clothes from before your grandma was born?



As a last note, I'd like to again point to coyotes- they are invasive pests over much of North America, and hunters are paid bounties to shoot them /and they are left to rot/. Wouldn't it be far better to use the fur from coyotes that would be killed anyway to make coats instead of having new ones made from fake, non-biodegradable materials?







PLEASE, people- consider ALL sides, not just the bias, extremist PETA view.
Pirate Gurl
2010-01-01 15:06:44 UTC
Cruel
Adira
2010-01-01 15:06:43 UTC
Cruel
RKO_JPL7
2010-01-01 15:13:48 UTC
I think it should be banned it's cruel I don't think an animal should be killed for it's fur people who wear real fur make me sick.
2010-01-01 15:08:27 UTC
Cruel.
ganglymoose!
2010-01-01 16:07:48 UTC
CRUEL its disgusting!!!!!

if ur for it research it its disturbing and cruel what these animals have to go through their entire life up until there skinned
2010-01-01 15:10:23 UTC
Cruel. Have you heard the way they get the fur?! And, most of the pets they use are actually stolen house pets.
Alien
2010-01-01 15:13:46 UTC
But why wear the skin of another creature? It seems strange. I would say cruel.
Fell In Love
2010-01-01 15:08:04 UTC
cruel, I will never wear fur as long as I live, I think people who owns any real fur are heartless people
2010-01-01 15:10:52 UTC
Comment: fur = G R O S S



i like that ur questions always have a good point :D
Banana Manna
2010-01-01 15:08:42 UTC
CRUEL! It's SOOOO cruel! Poor poor animals!
EXPECTO PATRONUM!
2010-01-01 15:08:48 UTC
cruel, pathetic rich people

I absolutely hate those stupid women that wear those huge REAL fur coats

its absurd

idiotic
PANCAKESSS!
2010-01-01 15:13:11 UTC
I think its blood, and murder. Cruel, and not attractive at all.
Anni's Apple Corer
2010-01-01 15:11:22 UTC
My cat seems to like wearing the real thing....
LiNDSAY
2010-01-01 15:06:34 UTC
Real fur= gay

I only wear humans
franz dumke
2010-01-01 15:07:43 UTC
No more cruel than eating meat or eggs or wearing leather.
Nasima R
2010-01-01 15:09:44 UTC
i think you've already gotten your answer but just in case you haven't, it's cruel!
... Hi, Miss Darling x
2010-01-01 15:07:40 UTC
Cruel :(
2010-01-01 15:07:54 UTC
ugly, cruel, ignorant, and anyone that wears it, buys it, or thinks dead animal is fashionable is nothing but a jerkoff scumbag wh0re.

and i hope they die as well., there does that answer your question?



people are so fken pathetic in this world



and that was suppose to be a thumbs down to franz, who is apparently clueless
Taiga
2010-01-01 15:11:37 UTC
dunno



i think it is OK but i don't like to have fur cuz it is sso thick and itchy sometimes! and bugs hide in there, well, they can it never really happened to me
2010-01-01 15:11:20 UTC
cruel and heartless
callmesky
2010-01-01 15:07:57 UTC
cruel,
Smile.ツ
2010-01-01 15:07:16 UTC
I think it looks ugly, and its just weird wearing a dead animal.
2010-01-02 05:30:24 UTC
CRUEL
2010-01-01 15:07:03 UTC
not my style and its cruel
2010-01-01 15:07:42 UTC
CRUEL CRUEL CRUEL CRUEL CRUEL.
2010-01-01 15:09:39 UTC
I only wear REAL fur! Absolutely no Ffur(Fake fur) for me! My favorite is my leopard skin coat. It is delicious.
2010-01-01 15:09:26 UTC
Cruel.



Peta rocks!!
2010-01-01 15:06:40 UTC
It makes whoever is wearing it look like a douche.
2010-01-01 15:11:12 UTC
cruel :(
2010-01-01 15:08:06 UTC
cruel!!!!!!!!!! why would you kill an animal and wear it as a jacket!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????? i have fur coats, but they are faux, as in fake!!!!!!!!!
Taradactal
2010-01-01 15:07:43 UTC
Sad and gross.
CUTE GAYL™
2010-01-01 15:08:02 UTC
COOL

OH YEAHH


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